Speaking with Megyn Kelly, Shelley Ross, a veteran television journalist and former executive producer at ABC and CBS who had served as CNN’s Chris Cuomo’s producer when he anchored ABC’s “Primetime Live” and accused him of sexual harassment in 2005 in an op-ed published in late September, blasted CNN, alleging that women at CNN cannot complain about sexual harassment “because the person in charge has made it clear that Chris Cuomo can do anything he wants with impunity.”
Ross recalled the incident that triggered her column:
He walked into the bar, walked right over to me, gave me a bear hug, slipped one hand down my body to my buttocks, and squeezed really hard on my cheek while saying, “I can do this to you now, now that you’re no longer my boss.” And I pushed him away and said, “No, you can’t.” And as I pushed him away and stepped back, it revealed that my husband was sitting on a very low ottoman, which you couldn’t see him. While I was talking to people I worked with, he was just sitting there drinking a Diet Coke, waiting to leave. … So he saw everything, it was right in front of him.
“It was belittling; it was clearly a power trip,” she continued. “Chris Cuomo’s over six feet tall. I’m 5’2′. I’m under 100 lbs.”
“I talked to my husband about it,” she remembered. “And my husband has always said, and it’s interesting, I heard, when the editorial was published, I heard from Brian Rooney, who was an ABC correspondent, and he said to me he was the first person who called, early in the morning, and said, ‘Shelley, I think there are two kinds of men in the workplace: one who behaves like Chris Cuomo, and the other cannot fathom ever behaving like that.’ He said, ‘I can’t imagine men handling one of my female colleagues …’ My husband always said that, that he would read about sexual harassment and he was a boss who hired lots of women and lots of female vice-presidents. He just couldn’t believe, ‘What am I, the nerd? I don’t get it.’”
Kelly responded, “No. He’s the gentleman. He’s a normal man. A normal man doesn’t behave like this at the office. My husband, too, is the CEO of a company for a long time, would never dream of behaving this way. I think about my pal Janice Dean, married to a firefighter. He’s around a lot of guys with a lot of testosterone. Never. Never. Most men do not behave like this.”
“But Chris Cuomo, and as we now know, his brother Andrew, seem to behave differently and look at women differently,” Kelly continued. “And your op-ed was very well-timed, because not only did Chris defend his brother, we now know, but was actively involved in trying to diminish the women who accused him, and people said, ‘Ah, it’s his brother.’ And I said, “No. You advise your brother as a brother; you call him after-hours and say, ‘Brother, I’m here for you, come over, let’s have a beer.’ You don’t actively join the strategy sessions trying to tear down the women as just cancel culture warriors. And he’s been given a total pass for it by CNN.”
Kelly asked, “Let me ask you this: Given what we were just talking about, what do you think the women at CNN, if there are women who’ve had trouble with Chris Cuomo, or anybody else, but since we’re talking about Cuomo we’ll leave it on him, how can they complain, right —”
“They can’t,” Ross interjected.
“— so when they have a management that doesn’t seem too interested in pushing back on this kind of behavior,” Kelly finished.
“They can’t,” Ross stated. “They can’t complain because the person in charge has made it clear that Chris Cuomo can do anything he wants with impunity. … How can anybody complain without — women are already terrified to come forward. And you don’t want to get anybody in trouble on one hand, and on the other hand, you’re sort of, in you’ve been in a workplace any period of time, you know it’s going to reflect badly on you. It’s like the pendulum has swung us back into the Dark Ages, where it’s like, where women, which is no longer allowed to happen, used to be questioned if they reported a rape. ‘Well, what were you wearing?’ ‘They invited it.’”
“And even in his most recent comment to The New York times, Chris Cuomo, when The New York Times called him for a response, said, ‘As Shelley acknowledges, our interaction was not of a sexual nature,’” Ross pointed out. “Well, what I want to say is, there was never ‘our interaction.’ He’s already gaslighting everybody in that response.”
“Right. Like you were a willing participant,” Kelly commented.
“I was not a ‘participant,’ Ross asserted. “He walked into a room and grabbed me. This is not ‘our interaction.’”
"It was clearly a power trip to make me feel, 'You're no longer my boss, and I can do anything I want to you.'”
— The Megyn Kelly Show (@MegynKellyShow) October 4, 2021
— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) October 4, 2021
The Daily Wire is one of America’s fastest-growing conservative media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment. Get inside access to The Daily Wire by becoming a member.